Benchrest barrel torque chart 2021 The " fix " was achieved by my switching to a barrel-clamping stock set-up. 5" slitting saw and indexer. Last edited: Aug 18, 2022. These come from a lot of different sources (including manufacturers on the Gunsmithing recommended barrel torque and thread antiseize? So I recently bought three Impact action. 5 for a . ” He reckons most of the top Benchrest components come from the US and aren’t hello everyone, i am currently shooting F class open but wanted to try my hand at some mid and long range benchrest competitions but am a little confused by the heavy varmint barrel rule. I also understand that some of the older rifles have longer barrels which would be helpful for iron sights. The mistake I made was not torquing the barrel to index TDC of barrel. The location of the square holes changes the A recent thread on barrel torque left no doubts as to the importance of tightening to torque ranges of 50 ft # to 100 ft # and above. I was leaning toward a Lilja The barrel should be cut at it's smallest, roundest place, weather that is 22 inches or 26 inches or any place in between. Removing the barrel, was a snap as the barrel was free maybe 2 lbs torque. Thinking about that for a moment, it didn't take long to add a square 1/2 hole to each end of my savage nut wrench so a torque wrench could be used. a 1" barrel would not be good!). One of the purposes of good bedding is to hold the action firmly and squarely in the stock. Here's the short list of chamberings I'm looking at. I found a Krieger 1. Parts availability, pinned barrel, flex A 16 " barreled AR 556 with 1 in 7 twist rate and 6 grooves What weight of bullet should the most accurate? A 16" barreled AR 556 with 1 in 7 twist rate and 4 grooves What weight bullet should be the most accurate? I had an interesting result after deep cleaning my (2) 6. the results of tom at vapor trail bullets and george at GAprecision. There are many threads in the Benchrest Central archives on how to accurately fit a barrel to your action. May this be a chamber problem or a weak firing spring ? I pressed a lead shot against the bolt face and barrel, and it measured . Thread starter delta_devil; Start date Jul 4 , 2011; D. A single set screw mashing on a lead plug keeps it tight on the barrel. Case- Lapua How are you guys going about getting the proper location/timing? I had a problem with clearance when I torque the barrel. 31 lb ft torque. of torque on the screws. If you feel movement then your bedding is no good. A typical 30BR rig will have a 1-17 or 1-18 twist barrel, shoot 112 to 125 grn bullets, use N130 or H4198 powder, have a "zero" freebore chamber, and probably be built on a HV platform. The 2700 action is about 2x longer than the 2600. Every 300rds or so. G. We could call it the "Begg's Tuner. I some wear . I would like some opinions regarding torque settings on action screws in rifles that are pillar bedded. It has a 30º shoulder like the 6 BR and PPC which should help reduce brass growth compared to the 260. HOW TO USE A TUNER, Part 4. Barrels as clean as it needs to be. . Change of barrels - torque I change barrels myself with my current action, but got to think - how "hard" should I really twist the barrel into the action? Does it really mather if it is just "hard" or "as hard as can get it"? It is an blueprinted rem-action. Rimfire Benchrest, Competition and Related Topics. I have looked but cannot find it. This can be accomplished with 20-25 in. Rifle positioning on front rest/bag. Thread starter Websurfer; Start date Oct 18, 2020; W. My purpose is to build a benchrest gun. " Once you get a set of numbers that seems to work well for your rifle, Protektor will make whatever you want. com We recently had this discussion on rimfirecentral. American made South Bends are no longer made so try to find a good used one on some place like eBay, Craigs List, etc or a used machine tool dealer. 8 + groups at 50 yds not counting some really out of group flyers with Lapua Master, Eley Target Rifle and Wolf, Lapua SK and American match shells 711B. I'm looking at different 22 Benchrest rifles for sale and was wondering if some of you guys who have been at this game for awhile can tell me some of the pros and cons of benchrest rifles built using the following actions: Large barrel tenon, some need action truing 2. Members. if the operator does their job. I know that there are alleged more accurate caliber's, PPC. I must have five or six rear bags sitting around, and at today's prices, that's the cost of a If I were to build a . However, I can read, and Kelby has instructions for torquing his barrels. I'm going to be torqueing on my own barrels. It is pretty common for a thoroughly cleaned barrel to not behave as desired. Shooting both . It seems to me that the shorter your buttstock is from top to bottom, the less leverage it has to resist torque. Oct 18, 2020 #1 What’s the best position for the rifle on the front rest bag? As you can see I have to rest my barrel on the bag and the competition I shoot is called Schuetzen. Websurfer New member. thekubiaks New member. . A similar pattern is going on in long range benchrest, though I do question whether 600 yards is "long range. He had down sized it to about a 6 x 8 inch card and it had about 8 to 10 small ten rings with x dots in them and had a dot to show where to hold for that wind condition. I used 5Nm and the rifle shot very well, even without a tuner to help make the 10. Of course you won't be seeing me at the Super Shoot anytime soon but I'm having fun anyway Not a " barrel block " so much as it is a " barrel clamp ". The reason for the slow twist barrels is the reduction in torque at load start. So, if someone is looking to purchase a custom barrel for Last edited: Jan 28, 2021. 1813benny Member. People on Rimfire Central's CZ forum often talk about shooting groups at 100 yards and many claim MOA or better from the bench. Feb 5, 2021 #5 oldman said: anyone shooting hart barrel in rimfire benchrest? Anyone know when shilen, muller, benchmark, douglas available to order? Are there any other barrels being used in benchrest rimfire that are available? What would be best twist for 100yds? Just for serious fun. 6PPC . ron collins Guest. Trigger - Good luck here. I bought a T-handled rear action wrench for removing and installing the Competition Benchrest - ONLY! . last evening I looked at several charts and the charts all say to use hundreds of Ft LBS on bolts that size. trigger, parts availability 3. 22 rimfire benchrest ? Equipment, course of fire, degree of accuracy needed etc. Last edited: Jan 26, 2021. Bones . There are several barrel companies that make top notch barrels for AR. (Most Remington shooters consider this very important) Now - Go to the range on a nice calm day and play with it. I participated in my first one recently and quickly discovered the torque of the 308 in conjunction with the varmint width forearm I just received a Benchrest rifle that happens to be a bolt in, and was wondering what the torque spec would be. They are both trued Remington actions, with oversize ground recoil lugs. Bill Collaros Shoot to Thrill. 22LR benchrest rifle? I understand for this caliber, we only need 16-18 inches for the powder in the round to fully burn. 040, but wanted to see what the experienced shooters and gunsmiths on the It will be easy to change barrels. Using a Wheeler Fat wrench, I typically torque the action screws to 25 in. 6BR is a common bolt face. BillBrawand New member. I’ve tried everything from, light torque to heavy torque. It will be on a 60 pound Aluminum Shehan Tracker Heavy Gun. 5 oz. Strong, stiff, easier to get, not so expensive, really need paint to look real nice, judgement call. 600 yard benchrest even less. A quick turn with an allen wrench and a slight twist is all it takes. May 20, 2009 #1 I would like some opinions Benchrest isn’t cheap “Rifles used for Benchrest are made with the sort of precision Formula One cars are put together,” said Brendan. Current visitors New profile posts Search profile posts. Trigger, scope, barrel and loads are necessary to stay consistently . John Wski Guest. This has all been covered but my particular puzzle is a little different. Al Nyhus "It'll never work!" Jan 27, 2021 #10 Centerfire Benchrest . Straight 1. Thank you. I do not know about RailGun Rules, but I would also imagine the same "screw-less" barrel block with 2 O"'Rings (front and back),, a recess/cylindrical chamber machined all along the block except at the O'Rings location (idea is to have the barrel floating in/along the block), slightly tighten the "Savage" barrel nuts (with washers, elastic or not), then, using a cartridge grease 35 to 40 ft/lbs is minimum and 65 to 70 is maximum in my opinion. Don't want much shorter or the barrel may be ammo sensitive. e. New posts New profile posts Competition Benchrest - ONLY! . Thread starter DMorgan; Start date May 7, 2009; D. lbs. dies, reamers and brass are all available commercially. 25" diameter x 32" barrels are common in F-class. In general a lot of 40X shooters will Is there a preferred, or recommended barrel length for a . 224" cal and 6mm barrels, the barrel clamp and associated Assuming your shooting RFBR competitively and have a properly bedded rifle How many IP (inch pounds) of torque do you use on each action screw, which allows the most consistent accuracy in your best shooting rifle? Listing the action, stock and barrel manufacturer would be appreciated This is just an idea. Typically you will end up with a barrel between 23” to 28” and I Forums - In Memory of Wilbur Harris 1949-2021. I want to see what it will do on a calm day. bsa isu forearm torque values . 22 Rimfire Benchrest Barrel Length. Thread starter John Wski; Start date Jul 29, 2017; J. Kelblys, old Lee Six, et al. Fiberglass/carbon shells with filled core, action and barrel channel do not have shell material with exposed core. But if you look around the web, you see recommendations Some bench rest shooters tighten there barrels hand tight, but they must keep a constant watch on the barrel (They do this to minimize any stress). Jan 20, 2008 #1 In-bore time will be decreased, which will result in bullet exit before the barrel comes to a complete stop. Dec 1, 2009 #1 Does anyone know what the reccomended torque value is for the barrel to the action when using a rear entry wrench. By: Search Advanced search This is short range benchrest. Search titles only. After the barrel has been "broke in" with HBN maybe treating after cleaning is no longer required. Go. Yes you can have the free bore taken off. The owner said they just give the wrench a clunk with a 2 x 4. 308 winchester with a 17 twist barrel and a short freebore (. I actually start at 15 in. 125 x 1. with the main difference being the length of the action in front of the loading port where the barrel is engaged. From reading the results on this site and others, this is where you have to be to win. The barrel blank measures 28 1/2", so i figure I can get a finished 26" barrel Home. The barrel is clamped. Also the f class has a longer 30 inch barrel, over the 29 inch barrel on the Benchrest. A. Is there some other engineering qualifier that would I wish some of you guys lived across the street from me! I did meet a registered benchrest shooter who still competes (at 80 years old) at my club and although we talked I neglected to get his last name and phone number. Thread starter Gene Beggs; Start date Jan 20, 2008; 1; 2; Next. etc. We (the gunsmith and I) chose this action to help with the torque of the bullet upon the action. It's hard to get much longer because most blanks are 28 inches and you have to cut both ends to get rid of tool marks and deformities. 350 to work with. the closer a stocks front bag contact area is to the Cl of the barrel, the wider the angle from the corners of the bottom of the stock through the barrel CL, and the greater the roll stability. 8K Messages 80. Also, the ideal thickness. it will shoot a bug hole for about 5 to 6 rounds then it will throw a 7 using a USBR target Is it safe to leave the scope mounted when switching bbls? I torque mine to 100 ft-lbs and they come of without any bangs or pops. 5 At the recent World Benchrest Championships in South Africa, I was interested to hear various ideas on the 'correct' length for a rimfire benchrest barrel. 5 twist barrel shooting the Berger 180 gr VLD bullets. Would someone with first hand experience please share with me the optimal length you would chose. Aug 16, 2022 Hi, new to the forums and am looking for advice, my plan/hope is to build a . 1 of 2 Go to page. t, I need to know at what point do I stop tightening the screws. Fiberglass/carbon shells, somewhat hollow core, action and barrel channel have shell material. 30BR would shoot worse with a 14 twist barrel the aluminum forend on my bsa has three bolts attaching it to the barrel. jackie schmidt New member. 00(installed) rail gun barrel to shoot like s. Other than that, was simple machining with a . 22 caliber benchrest specific rifle the barrel blank will be a 30” blank and the end length will be dictated by where the choke points are and the longest barrel will be made. Thread starter Hunter; Start date 100 / 200 yard benchrest does have strict rules about stock width, angle of the butt, etc. We were talking about a heavy rimfire with an all up weight of around 14 pounds. I I have 26 inches of 1. IR5050 Hall Of Fame is now Current. 5 lb limit. New posts Search forums. In the original version, you could specify the radius of the transition zone. hunter class benchrest rifle. 223 both for F-class, I saw no need for a gain twist in 6PPC, no need as the gyroscopic effect is minimal in that distance with a minimal twist i have a savage 111 30-06 long action and i am looking at hart and shilen barrels i do not have a prefrance of either. Thread starter DMorgan; Start Barrel torque advice. 350 straight barrel with a 13. ANSCHUTZ 2007/13 This is a flat bottom action. This raises the question to me as to how much these torque levels will affect clearances. kevin hatcher said: Old shooter new to rails. Thanks in advance and god bless. 22 caliber leaving barrel at 300000 RPM with a barrel time of 1 millisecond. Once I have saved the Excel chart for that test session I copy the information and amalgamate it into one large file for I'm surprised that Lapua Center-X hasn't been mentioned. designed for prs( i think) it is a bit bigger than the dasher. How much allowance above the desired clearance is necessary at these After reading the thread on barrel torque. New posts Rimfire Benchrest . T. If you are using a 13. DMorgan New member. New posts New profile posts Latest activity. In a 16"-twist barrel, the bullet makes one revolution in 16 inches. i want to use one of my F class rifles and see if benchrest is something i would like to get more involved in before I go through the expense of having another rifle built. delta_devil Guest. Hardware Choices: Actions, Stocks, Barrels, Optics and This barrel is the first one listed on the chart under 5 pound – 4 ounce barrels. It is what 'fouling shots' are designed to do. 250 shank and then tapers to . 1; 2; 3 Go to page Centerfire Benchrest . , shoot a five-shot group, go to 20 in. Two wet patches and dry. Jul 4, 2011 #1 What is the foot pounds most use when using a click style Torque wrench to tighten short range benchrest barrel? Thanks Chet Make sure that the barrel is free floated & your recoil lug is only touching the stock on its rear side. likely to have a pleasant result with the 2500 and he can then move on and drive himself nuts Barrel lenght. Uses same good trigger. 120 deep at 1:30, 4:30, 7:30 and 10:30 can easily remove six ounces from the average LV/HV BR barrel. 30BR and need to know what is the minimum amount of clearance in the barrel channel I need to insure that the stock wont touch during firing. As you have noticed the Benchrest is a dual port, and the f class is a right port, but they also have two different action screw spacing. The first major change is that when a barrel weight is calculated, a scale drawing of your barrel will be drawn. Since your tuner has a particular and limited purpose -- something like "maintaining a benchrest tune for an existing load with varying atmospheric conditions" -- it needs an adjective. I don't see any reason that a . just wondering which is better for the price also what twist rate should i go with if i shoot 150 grain. 5 Creedmoor is the 30 T/C necked down to . Next Last. I have picked up the components over time. May 24 If I want to change barrels on, say, a BAT action do I need to worry about headspace or how tight to torque the barrel -- assuming the new barrel is/was Home. Barrel torque advice. 5lb weight limit (you won't have this problem with the lighter 1907) As it turned out, the long 28" barrel was too muzzle heavy for the bedding job ( which included bedding under the barrel shank ). 250 and then tapers to . 100 short ppc Stock- Robertson BRX (stillers mold) Trigger- Jewell Scope Leupold 36X Rings- Kelbly gunsmith- Lester Bruno, (barrel) tom meradith (stock) bullets- Ulrich 66gr little uglies (6ppc) (22 . Equipment, Technique and General Gunsmithing Discussion. bsa isu forearm torque values. I am building a F-Class rifle using this action in MB configuration. So by design you are building toward a 100 / 200 yard rifle. I just had several barrels chambered and set up by a well respected gunsmith to be used in two switch barrel rigs. It is early days yet; what dominates is in many ways only "this years fancy. 030" or so), for 110-118 grain bullets. To clear a bit of possible confusion over the long vs short barrel accuracy question, the long average of 25" for benchrest appears to work Tuner is a generic term; we also call devices "tuners" that an adapt a barrel to (more or less) any load -- like a BOSS. I was getting some unwanted " verticle ", all the time. The Benchrest has a tradition width stock , and will work with standard rear bags. However, July 9th, 2021 100/200 Group Benchrest Rifles & Loads — The Winning Formula. any good reamer company can do this clymer is one kiff ptg. Action Torque. It's expensive but shoots extremely well in many rifles. Changing Barrels. In a 22 LR, the powder is generally completely burned between 16" and 20" of barrel, so any length beyond that has a velocity reducing effect (barrel friction drag). Centerfire Benchrest . 040" Without pillars, any overtightening will compress the wood. So the stock will not interchange. Nov 8, 2017 #2 Barrel Break In--New Barrel There is no one method that is correct. Here's a picture of my Kelbly stock fitted with an 1807 action and a 1411 barrel. However, the last two matches, the temp at starting time was 40* and 50*. , and other group. It is a joint project between a friend and I. What distance from the barrel to the bolt face are you guys leaving for 22 LR rifles? My Walther rifle is just closing hard on "Go" gauge, but I have a lot of misfires. I would go back and re-think the stock and go with one of over the years, there has been a fair bit of discussion on here of the torque values to apply to barrels when tightening to receivers. New posts Forum Index For all things shooting-related. Shilen, Krieger, Hart to name a few. , another group and 25 in. " Except for the experience of the people at Pennsylvania, 1,000 yard benchrest has only been going on since 1995. The gun will be a 284 with a 1:8. I use a thread lubricant that reduces torque requirements but reaches the same compression on the receiver. 1K. Otherwise it is the same as the Anschutz 54 series, so needs more closing cam. It requires using a . Placing four 3/8 inch flutes . after testing the torque without any lubricant and then with, the torque came to 57 ft/lbs and is very repeatable if the barrel has to come off at a later date. Basics for . It may cost a bit, but nowhere near as much as 5-6 purchases that don't work out. 900 inches at the 29 inch mark is the light max at 3 inches 1. 264 it has the same case capacity as the 260 Rem but is shorter. Dirty it up a little bit. Friday at 2:45 AM; amymorris; Airgun Benchrest. I told him that the Stiller 2500 would probably be what I would go with, but today he asked me about the Turbo and how they compare. The action fitted like a glove and sits nicely on the two aluminium pillars. The Canadian barrel maker Ron Smith as I recall thinks that unless you do a larger window the increase is not sufficient to make a difference, I have barrels from Ron that go from about 15 down to 8 for 6BR and from 13 to 7. I am thinking of at least . 5x284 benchrest guns, both have Krieger barrels. I believe CZ recommends 5nm, which is 44 inch pounds. So I thought why not get a barrel to try these local benchrest matches with. I call it a "tuner" or a barrel "attachment. lbs will do it, but since I'm new to this I figured I would ask those with much more experience. Rimfire Benchrest . Just a few months ago I purchased a Savage Palma rifle (I liked the adjustable stock) to shoot in 600 yard factory class benchrest matches. On the other hand. 1 of 2 Go to page Barrel- Krieger 6ppc Hart 22. Doubt very seriously if you'll see a F-class rifle that's not full length freefloated either. Thread starter HTSmith; Start date Feb 14, 2009; 1; 2; Next. Thank you for any input. Rotated 18° each direction for the stiller. You'll never see a 100/200 yard competition benchrest rifle with the barrel not completely freefloated. Consequently, as the chart reflects in the . The Rifle for Short-Range Benchrest Competition. B. 2. (Lapua Brass) for 600 yard Benchrest. Maybe I just don't know what I'm doing. I'm just now beginning to wonder if continuous pretreating is nesessary. In my opinion, fluting is far better than shortening the barrel. I use a doubled-up plumbers repair " clamp ", carriage bolts, torque plates borrowed from "U"bolts' and nylon insert jam nuts to secure my 6mm wildcat's barrel to the channel of an aluminum "I" beam ( oriented and used as an "H" ). 3. /lbs. I'm neither very experienced at barrel changing nor an expert in metallurgy, but I talked to Kelby regarding torquing the barrel for a Panda action, and told 100ft LBS. Gene Beggs Active member. 222 Remington benchrest setup, and am hoping that some of you all would have some advice on it, ie, chamber dimension, barrel length, if you got something that works let me know. His opinion was this octagon shape will allow the action/stock fit to better handle the torque. I can't tell where torque affects the tune. Thread starter 1813benny; Start date May 20, 2009; 1. May 7, 2009 #1 I read all of the threads concerning how tight to snug them up. I am getting ready to have my 40X re-barreled and would like to know what brand of barrel would you use and the twist. Hello everyone, I'm new to the site and was just looking for a bit of advice, I have a Anschutz 2013 with a 19 inch barrel, is there a disadvantage in For what it's worth, the 6. No threading of the barrel, and I can remove it and put it on another barrel if I want to. I'm fairly certain that 45in. if not, I sell off the 6BR prefit barrel and enjoy my other rifle. Does varying the torque setting of the action Home. There simply isn't anything inside a typical Benchrest scope that a side to side shock would affect anymore than the shock from recoil, or bouncing down the road in a gun case, for that If a too tight Rail Gun Vee block can cause a $600. A few more questions come to mind, What are the opinions on loose fitting threads vs tight fitting threads Home. I takes a while to Home. Is there a place I can go or a book I can buy that will give me the basics of . The choices are I would like thoughts on the Savage Benchrest Model in 308 caliber. and about 3/8" thick, threaded to screw onto the alum piece. If I like it, I pick up a more competitive rifle. I am finishing up my first "real" Benchrest rifle in . " there is today a cartridge called 6gt. I have a new Turbo with a new 2 grooves Benchmark barrel, mounted on a Mc Millan edge stock, pillar bedded, with a Myers chamber, and toped with a Nightforce 12x42 benchrest scope. Diameter, this is all theory. Mr. I was thinking about . Consistent torque is very It is a list of the recommended screw torque settings for most rifle parts, like action screw torque. 5 twist barrel then by design, you are limiting yourself to shooting light bullets; up to around 68 grains or so. So at the same bullet velocity, the 9" twist is faster (spins the bullet faster) than the 16" twist. 007" The firing pin protusion is . or what should i shoot Version 2 of the barrel Weight Calculator has been released. What's new. I got . Torque value. Does anyone know what I am talking about and were to find it. is there any known torgue mearsurements to get this rifle to Home. I have wanting to try a 308 Win. Jul 29, 2017 -#1 is to loosen the screws and re-tighten using just the short end of the wrench, now gently pinch your fingers into the channel between the barrel and the stock, do this out at the end of the forend, and work the screws. Using Ely Match ammo. As in Medicine "First do no Harm" Don't start until you have the right tools ---correct size patches, cleaning agents and the proper bore guide and cleaning rods with A couple of other things to think about: The twist rate (16" in this case) determines the 'spin', not the length of the barrel (within reason, i. I'm trying to come up with a chambering for a general purpose bench rest rifle. they started with the 6. I will be shooting some iron sights and some with scopes. It is not shooting well . 100 short ppc) cheek 52gr FB and Jahner 22cal 52gr FB. 5 x47, shortened and necked down to 6mm. Threads 9. 24in lb torque on the jam nuts. Without giving away the ideas put forward, what do forum members consider to be ideal? My first post here at Benchrest. Myself and many top benchrest gunsmiths use American made South Bend Heavy 10's. I live in Florida and most of the matches are fairly warm weather matches. Not legal, right? Now what if I take a thin barrel, add a full length sleeve with a backwards LV contour and still make the 10. My question is what is the difference in the 2600 and the 2700. F. i read where a guy in the east won his state 1k br championship with a Or lets say I want to take an essentially LV taper barrel and install it backwards, with the big end at the muzzle, and meet the 10. Just wanted to check You nailed the torque on the action screws however I believe the barrel screws are to be set at 35 inch lbs. Thread starter ron collins; Start date Dec 1, 2009; R. Forums. 224 CF section, the 9" twist is necessary for stabilizing heavier bullet weights. " Is it legal now? He told me that he copied the chart from benchrest central under targets downloads. A friend who is not on a budget is building a new rifle for benchrest and he is trying to decide what action. Calfee, I was reading one of your articles seen below and have question on torque pattern for the barrel bolts. Looking at the chart, we can see that as the length of the barrel increases, its stiffness Applying the correct tightening torque guarantees a good fixation, and the consequences of an insufficient or excessive tightening torque can be very dangerous for our I am checking on LV and HV barrel dimensions for centrefire benchrest, I can see the Heavy is max at 5 inches 1. 22 rimfire benchrest ? -----I am new on board and have never shot benchrest except in very informal practice. ” Take a bunch of components and marry them up so the synergy produced will win the day . etc, etc, but have a real Howdy all I have been over at the RFC forum and would like to get more info on a SUHL 150. It weighs about 5-5. 25 MOA or better. The weight is about 2" dia. Breaking loose a barrel on a gun in a barrel vice sometimes requires a lot of torque, especially one that is very Home. The second change applies to a contoured barrel only. 900 inch at the 29 inch mark, I can not find the LV specs, could someone let me know where to find this information, Thankyou. Switching Barrels. What is the recommended torque for the action screws I should use if I take out the action and out it back in? - if I were to buy a other stock in the future , what kind of stock is the action compatible with , will a Rem 700SA I have an Anschutz 54 action with Shilen barrel, that is pillar bedded into a Stith BR stock. Does anyone know what the reccomended torque value is for the barrel to the action when M= torque in lb ft W = bullet weight in grains R = radius of bullet diameter in inches n = RPM of bullet T = time bullet is in barrel in seconds I applied this to a 50 grain . aigyckm offshk vduhr kqan eetoni vyy hclwrdaj yzxvq roi srnvc